MICHELLE H.
2009-06-11 20:42:43 UTC
Hello everybody,
I am new to the group, and hoping that somebody might be able to help me
out, and give me some info??
Is it true that if you want to report someone for Social Security FRAUD,
that you have to know EXACTLY what type of Social Security benefits they
are getting?? If so, how the heck are you suppose to do that, and find
out what kind of disability they are on!? I have heard that there are
ALOT of different types of disability payments, and not just one
universal one!? Is this true?
Basically, here is whats going on. I will try to keep this as short as
possible, even though I could probably make it like 4 pages long!!!
I have been living next to my neighbor for 6 years now, and I have NO
DOUBT that he is committing Social Security Fraud. He is a Portuguese
guy who moved here from Portugal to the United States, back in the late
80's or early 90's ( I forgot when exactly ), and he is in his mid 50's.
I don't talk to the guy anymore because he disgusts me by committing
fraud, but when I first moved next door to him 6 years, I would talk to
him on occasion.
Basically he told me that he was on government disability, and collected
disability checks from the government every month, and he wasn't able to
"no work", because of his "bad back".
I will NEVER forget what he told me one time, and wish so very much that
I had a tape recorder on me. He said to me these EXACT words:
"I love America! I come to America, and I tell them I no work, because I
have bad back, and they give me checks to stay home!!".
I talked with his wife one time, and she told me that he hurt his back
because he was helping his brother move a couch, either up a staircase
or down a staircase ( I forgot which? ), and he lost his balance, and
fell down the stairs hurting his back.
She said that he wishes that he would have got hurt at his "factory job"
that he was working at, at the time, because he could have got "MORE
MONEY" collecting "workers comp". But because he got hurt moving a
couch, he now collects Social Security Disability checks every month for
"less money".
The only other thing I know, is that he told me that he also can't work
because he is on "14 different medications a day".
One of the other reasons why I can't stand the guy is because he stays
home 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and all he does is WATCH YOU and SPY
ON YOU.
The guy is a chain smoker, and smokes like 2 to 3 packs a day, and
everytime I am outdoors doing something like yard work, gardening,
playing with my kids, washing the car, etc, etc, he always has to come
out and stand there and smoke his cigarrette for 10 minutes and watch
every little thing your doing!!!!
I also see him watching me and my family through his windows when he is
INSIDE his house as well!!!! He stands right in front of the window
watching every little thing we do outdoors!!!!!
Even if its something like bringing in grocerys or or taking the trash
out, he has to come outside and STARE at you and WATCH you, while
smoking his cigarettes!!!!!
I was told from the neighbor across the street from us when I first
moved in 6 years ago that "he is the EYES of the neighborhood". "He is
ALWAYS watching EVERYBODY, to see what's going on and what they are
doing", she told me.
Over the years, I have seen him doing all kinds of stuff out in his yard
with his "bad back" he claims he has, and he DOESN'T ever look to be in
much pain at all. But last week, was the thing that really burned me up
the most, here's what happened.
Last week, he was pulling into his driveway with his Isuzu SUV and the
car died ( dead battery ), at the front of his driveway. Well, he needed
to get the car down to his garage which was about 100 feet away, so that
he could hook it up to the battery charger, and so he put the Isuzu in
neutral, and HE PUSHED the car about 100 feet down the driveway to his
garage!!!!!
Here are just SOME of the other things that I have seen him do over the
last couple of years:
#1 Mow his lawn in the summer with a PUSH lawnmower
#2 Push and use a snowblower in the winter to snowblow his driveway and
sidewalk
#3 Shovel his driveway and sidewalk with a snowshovel ( When his
snowblower was broken )
#5 Move around and carry big 5 gallon buckets of sand and rock salt
#6 Carry around and play with his 5 year old granddaughter
#7 Rake leaves and rake his yard
#8 Sweep his driveway with a broom
#9 Wash his mini-van and pickup truck in the driveway
#10 Vacuum his mini-van and truck
#11 Clean out his garage - lifting and moving around many heavy items
like car tires and rims, a grill, wooden tables, a big toolbox, etc,
etc.
#12 Change the oil in his truck and mini-van in the driveway
#13 Carry and stack firewood this past fall in his backyard
#14 Carry tables down his driveway to his front yard to set up a tag
sale
#15 Dig a vegetable garden with a garden hoe
#16 Wash his kitchen floor with a mop
#17 Put in and take out a HUGE 15,000 btu air conditioner out of the
window HIMSELF with no other help
#18 Carry bags of grocerys and big 50 pound bags of dog food into his
home, to name only a few
#19 Use a heavy BACKPACK type leafblower and wear it for 1 to 2 hours
straight while leaf-blowing his yard
#20 Carrying crates and cages full of live bunnies and chickens to the
bunny/chicken coup in his backyard.
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ATTN: ANIMAL LOVERS - SKIP #21
#21 Bending over for LONG periods of time, killing live New Zealand type
bunnies and skinning them.
( Sorry if this has offended everybody, but this is what the jerk does.
Portuguese people love rabbit meat, as it is a delicacy to them.
Rabbit meat to them, is like lobster and steak is to Americans.
Every week he brings home anywhere from like 60-80 LIVE bunnies, and he
kills them, skins them, and sells the meat under-the-table for a profit
).
When I first moved in, he actually asked me if I wanted to buy any
rabbit meat from him. He told me that it was $7 dollars if I wanted to
buy a dead rabbit and skin it and clean it myself, and $12 dollars if I
wanted him to skin it and clean it for me, and just give me the meat.
And for all you animal lovers out there,YES, I have reported him to
ASPCA for this, and they did NOTHING!!!!! They said that he was killing
the bunnies humanely, and that most likely the bunnies were being bred
for food, and not for pets.
I told them, that I didn't know that taking a live bunny, and holding it
over a 5 gallon bucket and stabbing it with a sharp steak knife and
letting it BLEED to death was being humane!?
Because this is how he kills these poor innocent bunnies. He takes them
out of the crate that they are in, and he holds them up over a 5 gallon
bucket, and he stabs them with a sharp steak knife, and the poor
helpless bunny bleeds to death. He then proceeds to skin the dead bunny,
and clean it out, before throwing the meat into a seperate 5 gallon
bucket, which he will sell later on under-the-table for $12 bucks each.
END
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But the point I was trying to make, was that he says he has a "bad
back", but has no problem lifting and carrying a crate or metal cage
with about 10 live New Zealand bunnies throughout his yard.
And people that are famliar with New Zealand bunnies, know that they are
about the size of a fat house cat and weigh between 10 and 15 pounds
each. And this guy is lifting up a metal cage with about 10 of them in
one cage!!!!!
Also, both his lawnmower and snowblower are NOT an electric start, its
one of those where he has to pull the rope to start it.
So he is able to pull the rope to start his lawnmower and snowblower
with no problem even though he says he is "totally disabled, because of
his bad back".
Somebody told me that in order to report him to Social Security for
fraud, that I need to get hard evidence of him doing stuff with his
supposed "bad back". I need to go outside with a camera or video camera
and take pictures or videotape him doing stuff??
Don't forget though, I have to live right next to this guy, I can't
start snapping pictures right in front of his face!? Besides, isn't it
illegal to take a picture of someone without their permission??
But, I have taken pictures of him doing some of this stuff, through my
windows, for evidence to give to Social Security. But is this good
enough??
Another thing that really burns me up, is that my husband has herniated
discs in his neck and back, as well as a bad knee, and arthritis
throughout his body, but when he applied to try to get Social Security
Disability, they denied him, telling home that "he can lift 10 pounds,
so go to work".
Yet, this guy comes here to the United States, from Portugal, tells
Social Security he can't do "no work" because of his "bad back", and he
is getting checks thrown at him by the U.S. government, even though he
sure seems capable of doing everything from yardwork, installing air
conditioners, moving tables and furniture, to washing cars, and changing
his own oil.
Must be nice to come here to America, and tell people you have a bad
back, and get free money, and live the good life.
The guy buys a new car, truck, or SUV just about every year. Heck, last
year he bought a brand new $25,000 dollar 2008 Jeep Liberty right out of
the showroom. He has some HUGE 60" inch flat screen plasma TV that he
paid a couple thousand for. He brags to all the other neighbors how he
made $30,000 dollars in home improvements to his house last year, and
how his house is now the nicest one on the street.
So, what can be done here?? How can I go or should I go about reporting
this guy for possible fraud???
Why should he get away with being able to milk the system out of free
money every month, that WE the taxpayers with jobs are paying for out of
OUR paychecks every week.
He should be forced to get a FULL-TIME job and pay back every single
dime that he has collected from the government, or he should be sitting
in a jail cell somewhere, or deported back to Portugal.
Any info. would greatly be appreciated on this matter!!
Thanks!
I am new to the group, and hoping that somebody might be able to help me
out, and give me some info??
Is it true that if you want to report someone for Social Security FRAUD,
that you have to know EXACTLY what type of Social Security benefits they
are getting?? If so, how the heck are you suppose to do that, and find
out what kind of disability they are on!? I have heard that there are
ALOT of different types of disability payments, and not just one
universal one!? Is this true?
Basically, here is whats going on. I will try to keep this as short as
possible, even though I could probably make it like 4 pages long!!!
I have been living next to my neighbor for 6 years now, and I have NO
DOUBT that he is committing Social Security Fraud. He is a Portuguese
guy who moved here from Portugal to the United States, back in the late
80's or early 90's ( I forgot when exactly ), and he is in his mid 50's.
I don't talk to the guy anymore because he disgusts me by committing
fraud, but when I first moved next door to him 6 years, I would talk to
him on occasion.
Basically he told me that he was on government disability, and collected
disability checks from the government every month, and he wasn't able to
"no work", because of his "bad back".
I will NEVER forget what he told me one time, and wish so very much that
I had a tape recorder on me. He said to me these EXACT words:
"I love America! I come to America, and I tell them I no work, because I
have bad back, and they give me checks to stay home!!".
I talked with his wife one time, and she told me that he hurt his back
because he was helping his brother move a couch, either up a staircase
or down a staircase ( I forgot which? ), and he lost his balance, and
fell down the stairs hurting his back.
She said that he wishes that he would have got hurt at his "factory job"
that he was working at, at the time, because he could have got "MORE
MONEY" collecting "workers comp". But because he got hurt moving a
couch, he now collects Social Security Disability checks every month for
"less money".
The only other thing I know, is that he told me that he also can't work
because he is on "14 different medications a day".
One of the other reasons why I can't stand the guy is because he stays
home 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and all he does is WATCH YOU and SPY
ON YOU.
The guy is a chain smoker, and smokes like 2 to 3 packs a day, and
everytime I am outdoors doing something like yard work, gardening,
playing with my kids, washing the car, etc, etc, he always has to come
out and stand there and smoke his cigarrette for 10 minutes and watch
every little thing your doing!!!!
I also see him watching me and my family through his windows when he is
INSIDE his house as well!!!! He stands right in front of the window
watching every little thing we do outdoors!!!!!
Even if its something like bringing in grocerys or or taking the trash
out, he has to come outside and STARE at you and WATCH you, while
smoking his cigarettes!!!!!
I was told from the neighbor across the street from us when I first
moved in 6 years ago that "he is the EYES of the neighborhood". "He is
ALWAYS watching EVERYBODY, to see what's going on and what they are
doing", she told me.
Over the years, I have seen him doing all kinds of stuff out in his yard
with his "bad back" he claims he has, and he DOESN'T ever look to be in
much pain at all. But last week, was the thing that really burned me up
the most, here's what happened.
Last week, he was pulling into his driveway with his Isuzu SUV and the
car died ( dead battery ), at the front of his driveway. Well, he needed
to get the car down to his garage which was about 100 feet away, so that
he could hook it up to the battery charger, and so he put the Isuzu in
neutral, and HE PUSHED the car about 100 feet down the driveway to his
garage!!!!!
Here are just SOME of the other things that I have seen him do over the
last couple of years:
#1 Mow his lawn in the summer with a PUSH lawnmower
#2 Push and use a snowblower in the winter to snowblow his driveway and
sidewalk
#3 Shovel his driveway and sidewalk with a snowshovel ( When his
snowblower was broken )
#5 Move around and carry big 5 gallon buckets of sand and rock salt
#6 Carry around and play with his 5 year old granddaughter
#7 Rake leaves and rake his yard
#8 Sweep his driveway with a broom
#9 Wash his mini-van and pickup truck in the driveway
#10 Vacuum his mini-van and truck
#11 Clean out his garage - lifting and moving around many heavy items
like car tires and rims, a grill, wooden tables, a big toolbox, etc,
etc.
#12 Change the oil in his truck and mini-van in the driveway
#13 Carry and stack firewood this past fall in his backyard
#14 Carry tables down his driveway to his front yard to set up a tag
sale
#15 Dig a vegetable garden with a garden hoe
#16 Wash his kitchen floor with a mop
#17 Put in and take out a HUGE 15,000 btu air conditioner out of the
window HIMSELF with no other help
#18 Carry bags of grocerys and big 50 pound bags of dog food into his
home, to name only a few
#19 Use a heavy BACKPACK type leafblower and wear it for 1 to 2 hours
straight while leaf-blowing his yard
#20 Carrying crates and cages full of live bunnies and chickens to the
bunny/chicken coup in his backyard.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ATTN: ANIMAL LOVERS - SKIP #21
#21 Bending over for LONG periods of time, killing live New Zealand type
bunnies and skinning them.
( Sorry if this has offended everybody, but this is what the jerk does.
Portuguese people love rabbit meat, as it is a delicacy to them.
Rabbit meat to them, is like lobster and steak is to Americans.
Every week he brings home anywhere from like 60-80 LIVE bunnies, and he
kills them, skins them, and sells the meat under-the-table for a profit
).
When I first moved in, he actually asked me if I wanted to buy any
rabbit meat from him. He told me that it was $7 dollars if I wanted to
buy a dead rabbit and skin it and clean it myself, and $12 dollars if I
wanted him to skin it and clean it for me, and just give me the meat.
And for all you animal lovers out there,YES, I have reported him to
ASPCA for this, and they did NOTHING!!!!! They said that he was killing
the bunnies humanely, and that most likely the bunnies were being bred
for food, and not for pets.
I told them, that I didn't know that taking a live bunny, and holding it
over a 5 gallon bucket and stabbing it with a sharp steak knife and
letting it BLEED to death was being humane!?
Because this is how he kills these poor innocent bunnies. He takes them
out of the crate that they are in, and he holds them up over a 5 gallon
bucket, and he stabs them with a sharp steak knife, and the poor
helpless bunny bleeds to death. He then proceeds to skin the dead bunny,
and clean it out, before throwing the meat into a seperate 5 gallon
bucket, which he will sell later on under-the-table for $12 bucks each.
END
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But the point I was trying to make, was that he says he has a "bad
back", but has no problem lifting and carrying a crate or metal cage
with about 10 live New Zealand bunnies throughout his yard.
And people that are famliar with New Zealand bunnies, know that they are
about the size of a fat house cat and weigh between 10 and 15 pounds
each. And this guy is lifting up a metal cage with about 10 of them in
one cage!!!!!
Also, both his lawnmower and snowblower are NOT an electric start, its
one of those where he has to pull the rope to start it.
So he is able to pull the rope to start his lawnmower and snowblower
with no problem even though he says he is "totally disabled, because of
his bad back".
Somebody told me that in order to report him to Social Security for
fraud, that I need to get hard evidence of him doing stuff with his
supposed "bad back". I need to go outside with a camera or video camera
and take pictures or videotape him doing stuff??
Don't forget though, I have to live right next to this guy, I can't
start snapping pictures right in front of his face!? Besides, isn't it
illegal to take a picture of someone without their permission??
But, I have taken pictures of him doing some of this stuff, through my
windows, for evidence to give to Social Security. But is this good
enough??
Another thing that really burns me up, is that my husband has herniated
discs in his neck and back, as well as a bad knee, and arthritis
throughout his body, but when he applied to try to get Social Security
Disability, they denied him, telling home that "he can lift 10 pounds,
so go to work".
Yet, this guy comes here to the United States, from Portugal, tells
Social Security he can't do "no work" because of his "bad back", and he
is getting checks thrown at him by the U.S. government, even though he
sure seems capable of doing everything from yardwork, installing air
conditioners, moving tables and furniture, to washing cars, and changing
his own oil.
Must be nice to come here to America, and tell people you have a bad
back, and get free money, and live the good life.
The guy buys a new car, truck, or SUV just about every year. Heck, last
year he bought a brand new $25,000 dollar 2008 Jeep Liberty right out of
the showroom. He has some HUGE 60" inch flat screen plasma TV that he
paid a couple thousand for. He brags to all the other neighbors how he
made $30,000 dollars in home improvements to his house last year, and
how his house is now the nicest one on the street.
So, what can be done here?? How can I go or should I go about reporting
this guy for possible fraud???
Why should he get away with being able to milk the system out of free
money every month, that WE the taxpayers with jobs are paying for out of
OUR paychecks every week.
He should be forced to get a FULL-TIME job and pay back every single
dime that he has collected from the government, or he should be sitting
in a jail cell somewhere, or deported back to Portugal.
Any info. would greatly be appreciated on this matter!!
Thanks!