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Maximum $2000 in bank account, if not how do they know?
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i***@ignorant.igg
2004-10-15 11:52:52 UTC
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Howdy

I receive SSI & SSDI. This is an older question, but I would like to know a little more from the expert. You are not supposed to have more than $2000 in your bank account (if single) when receiving SSI. If however you manage to save up more, and it goes above, how do they find out?

Do they check it randomly or regularly? Do you get a warning, or automatic suspension of a SSI? how can you get it back?

How dangerous is it for you to let it get over $2000. If a friend transfers money into your account (say $5000) and you take it out quickly does that count?

Thanky!
Bob
2004-10-15 12:47:33 UTC
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Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Howdy
I receive SSI & SSDI. This is an older question, but I would like to know
a little more from the expert. You are not supposed to have more than $2000
in your bank account (if single) when receiving SSI. If however you manage
to save up more, and it goes above, how do they find out?
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Do they check it randomly or regularly? Do you get a warning, or automatic
suspension of a SSI? how can you get it back?
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
How dangerous is it for you to let it get over $2000. If a friend
transfers money into your account (say $5000) and you take it out quickly
does that count?
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Thanky!
Buddy, you are skating on some mighty damned thin ice. Maybe even
walking on water...

--
"The strangest living boy that you could ever wish to see...
that's me!" - Gary Numan & Tubeway Army "The Machman"
Cymbal Man Freq.
2004-10-15 18:21:42 UTC
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I transferred $200 from my checking account to my savings account and within
days I got a form from SSA to fill out concerning my assets. Actually DEPOSITING
MONEY can set off their alarms! The only deposits allowed are Direct Deposits
from The Treasury. Cashing a check without depositing it is OK as long as your
accounts aren't frozen waiting for the checks to clear. For instance, my savings
account allows me to cash a $100 check without putting a freeze on my account
for the amount of that check until it clears. Cashing rebate checks in excess of
$100 will put a freeze on my very small savings account for the amount of that
check until that check clears. If somebody owes you $5,000, better take it back
from them on a very small & long installment plan.

There is a "Midnite On the First Of The Month Rule", whereby you are allowed to
have over $2000 in your account AFTER any & all deposits for the month from The
Treasury. You have to spend it down such that there will be less than $2000 when
the next monthly checks roll around. Since SSI gets paid first to your account,
SSDI doesn't have the SSI Asset limit however, SSDI checks are figured based on
your SSI amount if you have both programs paying you. So if your SSDI check was
$150 payable on the 3rd of the month, and your SSI check put you over $2000 on
the 1st of the month, there is a discrepency on whether you would get paid on
the 3rd.

One other "Checking Account Beware" caveat is: SSA workers interpret the same
rules differently, or they are fully ignorant of the rules and they abuse you
thusly. You cannot depend on being able to use the Rule I mentioned in the
previous paragraph without having a lawyer handy. You may wake up on the first
of the month and find that you never got paid for the month because the deposit
they would have made would have put you over the $2000 limit and you would have
had to take the Gov't to court to fight to get it back, and that is just stupid,
like trying to escape Stalag 13.

You need a trust fund set up for you if somebody else has a load of money to
spare to you, and that requires a very specialized lawyer to set up and a
trustworthy person to act on your behalf. I have heard story after story of
other family members saying they will caretake the trust for the ill person,
only to find out that the family member reneged on it and ran off with the
money. Banks won't touch a trust fund as a trustee for you unless you have
$150,000-$250,000 in it, and they want yearly payments for doing it. Trusts can
pay bills for you like your cable bill, your phone bill, car payments, insurance
payments, renters' insurance; but they are not allowed to pay for rent, food, or
clothing. This could leave a disabled person homeless with a half a million in
the trust fund and kicked off of SSI because rent was paid for out of the trust
fund in an emergency situation, such as an involuntary eviction or an unforeseen
rent hike. Trust funds of $5,000 probably don't even exist.

I have tried to get my brother to NEVER be the trustee for any trust fund my
parents leave behind, because he is a staunch Republican who doesn't believe
people should be on this planet if they don't have a living wage from work. He
was probably involved in decision making at his company to reduce pensions and
cut health benefits, back in the mid 1990's. He doesn't care who gets how much
of what shaft, it is just reckless disregard for the safety of others.
D.F. Manno
2004-10-18 00:54:30 UTC
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Post by Cymbal Man Freq.
I transferred $200 from my checking account to my savings account and within
days I got a form from SSA to fill out concerning my assets.
The word for that is "coincidence." I've moved that much money between
accounts several times without hearing from SSA.
--
D.F. Manno
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The average man doesn't want to be free. He simply wants to be safe.
(H.L. Mencken)
g***@gmail.com
2018-09-17 23:39:59 UTC
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If u get a sum of 2500 would you still be able to spend down the money and it will not affect your sdi as long as you tell them
Trailer Trash Suzie
2018-10-12 22:44:48 UTC
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marcia
2004-10-15 21:27:18 UTC
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Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Howdy
I receive SSI & SSDI. This is an older question, but I would like to know
a little more from the expert. You are not supposed to have more than $2000
in your bank account (if single) when receiving SSI. If however you manage
to save up more, and it goes above, how do they find out?
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Do they check it randomly or regularly? Do you get a warning, or automatic
suspension of a SSI? how can you get it back?
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
How dangerous is it for you to let it get over $2000. If a friend
transfers money into your account (say $5000) and you take it out quickly
does that count?
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Thanky!
Buddy, you are skating on some mighty damned thin ice. Maybe even
walking on water...
Likely scenario:

Iggy tries to scam the system
Iggy gets caught
Iggy's benefits are stopped
Iggy gets prosecuted for fraud
Iggy is represented by a public defender
Iggy moves into the federal pen
Iggy has no commisary money
Iggy is forced to do "favors" for other prisoners
Iggy is finally released with $20 and a bus ticket
Iggy can't get SSDI or SSI benefits
Iggy doesn't qualify for welfare
Iggy can't get a job

Pick your ending:

Iggy commits other crimes in order to survive
Iggy goes back to jail
loop

OR:

Iggy moves into a homeless shelter
end of story
i***@ignorant.igg
2004-10-16 01:53:31 UTC
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"Pick your ending:

Iggy commits other crimes in order to survive
Iggy goes back to jail
"

Ok , I dont get it. . . . if you let your bank account go over $2000 when receiving SSI, you will be ARRESTED? Given JAIL TIME?

How is that fraud if someone gives you money?

What about the people who are given back pay disability benefits like $6000 and SSI is granted at the same time?
Cymbal Man Freq.
2004-10-16 04:02:31 UTC
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Post by i***@ignorant.igg
What about the people who are given back pay disability benefits like
$6000 and SSI is granted at the same time?
They get 9 months to spend-down their assets to the legal limit. This is a
financial concentration camp here. Your bank account is under "House Arrest" the
whole time you are on SSI, which could be for life, which may end abruptly at
any time for next to no reason. Marcia is not far off-base with her synopsis,
the laws are!

If you've won $5,000 on a video poker machine, you get to tell SSA about it and
you don't get paid by SSA until they are satisfied you have spent it all. If you
don't report it, the IRS surely will. Then the trouble starts that Marcia
mentioned before. If any professionals here know exactly what happens to
somebody on SSI who wins $5,000 in some contest, will they please insert the bad
news in this thread please. Winning $100 from your local Chamber of Commerce is
enough to scare anyone on SSI shitless. If I catch a 14 pound trout next year on
Memorial Day, I too could win $5,000; but I can't risk it.
Cymbal Man Freq.
2004-10-16 04:59:07 UTC
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If every government worker was treated like an SSI recipient, there would be no
government workers.
Cymbal Man Freq.
2004-10-16 19:15:42 UTC
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Bob
2004-10-16 16:27:14 UTC
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Post by marcia
Iggy commits other crimes in order to survive
Iggy goes back to jail
"
Ok , I dont get it. . . . if you let your bank account go over $2000 when
receiving SSI, you will be ARRESTED? Given JAIL TIME?
Post by marcia
How is that fraud if someone gives you money?
If you commit fraud and try to conceal it!!! You MUST have something you
could spend the money on, everyone does. New shoes? Set of tires for the
car, new clothes, electric bills, food, whatever. Spend it, Iggy!!!
Post by marcia
What about the people who are given back pay disability benefits like
$6000 and SSI is granted at the same time?
They have to spend it ASAP. Are you and I the only two people in North
America who owe nothing to anyone????
AxK
2004-10-16 18:30:21 UTC
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Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Howdy
I receive SSI & SSDI. This is an older question, but I would like to know
a little more from the expert. You are not supposed to have more than
$2000 in your bank account (if single) when receiving SSI. If however you
manage to save up more, and it goes above, how do they find out?
Do they check it randomly or regularly? Do you get a warning, or automatic
suspension of a SSI? how can you get it back?
How dangerous is it for you to let it get over $2000. If a friend
transfers money into your account (say $5000) and you take it out quickly
does that count?
Your bank maintains all transactions into and out of your account. Although
I never read on this I am certain if you had 5000 temporarily placed in your
account it could raise red flags and would be on record indefinately. I've
refused to cash checks for friends, loan them money from my account, etc..
because I want my account to be a accurate reflection of my SSA checks and
personal expenditures. I would encourage you to do the same.
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Thanky!
Bob
2004-10-17 00:34:24 UTC
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Post by AxK
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Howdy
I receive SSI & SSDI. This is an older question, but I would like to know
a little more from the expert. You are not supposed to have more than
$2000 in your bank account (if single) when receiving SSI. If however you
manage to save up more, and it goes above, how do they find out?
Do they check it randomly or regularly? Do you get a warning, or automatic
suspension of a SSI? how can you get it back?
How dangerous is it for you to let it get over $2000. If a friend
transfers money into your account (say $5000) and you take it out quickly
does that count?
Your bank maintains all transactions into and out of your account. Although
I never read on this I am certain if you had 5000 temporarily placed in your
account it could raise red flags and would be on record indefinately. I've
refused to cash checks for friends, loan them money from my account, etc..
because I want my account to be a accurate reflection of my SSA checks and
personal expenditures. I would encourage you to do the same.
Doing someone a small favor can screw you up bad!
Post by AxK
Post by i***@ignorant.igg
Thanky!
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